Debate on Trading Rules *Settled*

[Fluffy]

Ummm... I wasn't sure if I was supposed to make a new thread or not so I did, and I'll do all of my trades ever in this thread if that is alright with you, to save space you know?

Okay so here goes my first trade!

Fluffy wants to trade level five, male, phantox!
Fluffy requests a level five pichu!

[Rin]

Ooc:// I'm pretty sure you should make a new thread, and in any event, that would probably help keep clutter out of the larger one. Also, I'm assuming Phantox is uncommon like Pichu since Kitu was the 'first common pokemon' on Enera. By the way, Birdy, if there's anything wrong with this just tell me. The reason I didn't put in the exact personality is I just entered the Nature since that's all the info that probably would show up on a trade board, and the actually personality might vary.

Ic://

...trade processing...
...trade processing...

→ Fluffy's trade request has been accepted into the system! ←

Wait one moment please...searching for a trade partner...
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A trade partner has been found!

Options:


Name: Ari
Species: Pichu
Gender: Male
Level: 5
Ability: Static - The opponent has a 30% chance of being induced with paralyze when using an attack that requires physical contact against this Pokemon.
Attacks: Thundershock, Charm, Tail Whip
Personality: (nature: mild)
Original Trainer: Aidan


Name: --- (it looks like this Trainer hasn't given this Pokemon a name yet).
Species: Pichu
Gender: Female
Level: 5
Ability: Static - The opponent has a 30% chance of being induced with paralyze when using an attack that requires physical contact against this Pokemon.
Attacks: Thundershock, Charm, Tail Whip
Personality: (nature: hasty)
Original Trainer: Rosette

[Fluffy]

Noah looked at the computer screen and thought. Well, if he was going to be a good breeder it wouldn't hurt to have some female pokemon as well as male ones. He clicked on the second option then placed the phantox's pokeball onto the slot on the computer for it.

[Birdybot]

ooc// There has to be a disadvantage, and traded Pokémon won't be friendly, hence the personality. Also because personalities are more than just their natures.

ic// The machine buzzed again, rattling as it sucked Phantox's Pokéball down a tube to the Adoption Centre. With a soft hum and a final beep, Pichu's Pokéball then dropped out. The mouse now belonged to Noah, although it would probably be a tough job making it warm up to him.


Name: --- (it looks like this Trainer hasn't given this Pokemon a name yet).
Species: Pichu
Gender: Female
Level: 5
Ability: Static - The opponent has a 30% chance of being induced with paralyze when using an attack that requires physical contact against this Pokemon.
Attacks: Thundershock, Charm, Tail Whip
Personality: This Pichu is rather nervous, and doesn't like to leap into things. She prefers to asses every possibility before trying something risky, and doesn't tend to trust people, especially humans, too much after being abandoned. She will be disobedient for some time.
Original Trainer: Rosette

[img]http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pokemon/172-m.png[/img]
[b]Name:[/b]
[b]Species:[/b] Pichu
[b]Gender:[/b] Female
[b]Level:[/b] 5
[b]Ability:[/b] Static - [i]The opponent has a 30% chance of being induced with paralyze when using an attack that requires physical contact against this Pokemon.[/i]
[b]Attacks:[/b] Thundershock, Charm, Tail Whip
[b]Personality:[/b] This Pichu is rather nervous, and doesn't like to leap into things. She prefers to asses every possibility before trying something risky, and doesn't tend to trust people, especially humans, too much after being abandoned. She will be disobedient for some time.
[b]Original Trainer:[/b] Rosette

Also, we need a price for trading to make it fairer for people... does $2,000 for this seem OK with you? We can negotiate it, of course

[Angel]

Oh wow! So you can just place a Pokemon into the trade and request something, you don't actually have to trade with an actual existing character... Hmm.... *maniacal laugh*

[Fluffy]

If it is trading I think it is actually unfair to have both a price and a disadvantage. These pokemon are just being traded from an NPC to a PC in exchange for another pokemon, it isn't really as if they have been abandoned in the wild long enough for their personalities to drastically change. Also when you trade with NPCs in the games it doesn't cost anything and if you have to be of the same rarity I don't think it should cost anything on here either, after all think of it from a realistic point of view, who would the money be going to?The NPC wouldn't pay me to make an even change and I wouldn't pay the NPC for an even trade, especially not if the pokemon is going to have a disadvantage as well. In my opinion you should really change this so that it is either[/b] a defect or a price, if either at all.

I'm not trying to complain or be a whiner, it is just that I don't think these rules aren't really fair, nor is it fair to change things on someone while they are in the middle of doing it... It is called grandfathering (also known as the grandfather clause)...

[Rin]

Ooc:// If I may put my two cents in? I think the reason that Birdy wants there to be a disadvantage/fee is to discourage people from getting Pokemon in the Safari Zone and Routes and soforth and then just trading them in for anything they want of the same rarity. At the same time I do believe that a price and a defect is a little heavy handed. The reason the price is there could be easily explained; the Trade Center needs a way to get income and gathers money for every trade conducted to keep the company running and making sure that the Pokemon go to the correct trainers, etc. As for personality, that's also one of the reasons I only put in their nature, so that the person receiving the Pokemon could have some say in creating their personality but at the same time it would be more realistic, since trading isn't like getting anything at all you want. At the same time though, traded Pokemon shouldn't be friendly, but I don't think they should be unfriendly, either--just neutral, like the games have it.
But that's just my opinion, and I don't have any right to intrude in this conversation. ^-^; So it's up to you guys.

[Fluffy]

The point about getting any old pokemon you want is a good point, so why don't we have it so that I offer an uncommon pokemon for trade with an NPC and then the mod pick three or so random choices for them of the same rarity, or lower with extra moves or something. I do agree that it is a little ridiculous for us to be able to request just anything. I like the neutral idea too. That idea seems altogether much more fair. And maybe if we do want to choose then we could apply the fee or disadvantage since they would obviously be harder to get to meet your exact requests.

[Birdybot]

Yes, I can see what you mean about the whole personality/money thing. I put the personalities in because they'd have them from previous trainers. As for money, you're right in that it was to encourage people to get Pokemon the hard way.

Still, I really like the idea of randomizing. Rather than any random same rarity Pokemon, how about they pick two types, and then two or three Pokemon are randomized? For example, someone offers their Eevee and asks for an Electric or Psychic type. Their trade offers are an Electrike, Mareep, shiny Abra, Ralts and Drowzee. Would that work, do you think?

[Rin]

Ooc:// I like this combination of ideas, involving a) incorporating randomizing with types (mods can go look at the character's profiles at the person's Wishlist, so at least they might post one that the person wants or at least a Pokemon similar to it) and b) the pricing system Birdy put on the Trade Rules board when she modified it, since it IS important people actually catch their Pokemon properly and soforth. I also agree that Pokemon -would- have personalities from their old trainers, but I think they would be neutral, not necessarily hindering.

[Fluffy]

I really like that idea with the typing randomization as well, it seems a lot cooler. Also that way if the person wanted a less rare pokemon then the one they are offering they could save money right? That sounds fine by me!

Anyhow, now that that has been talked out I'm gonna go ahead and finish this certain trade xDI'll post more at some other point if I feel like it xD (Birdy don't forget to deduct my 2000)

[Birdybot]

OK, right, it's settled. From now on, people will choose types to be randomized from, their will already be personalities but neutral ones, and cost $2,000 or less (which isn't that much)

[Rin]

Ooc://Yay! *reads the new Trading Board Rules* I'm glad we've straightened that all out. Fluffy, you don't have to but you might want to name this thread something else and start another thread for any other trades in the future, considering we've scribbled/debated all over this one. P:

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[Fluffy]

Hmm... yeah.. I think I'll this one the settling of Trading rules xD